I didn't know Madonna has a sister

Posted by Almeda Bohannan on Monday, May 6, 2024

Watching this interview gives me great insight into her behavior.

Her sister seems... slow. Not developmentally slow, but just not smart.

Is the whole family like this?

If so, it's no wonder Madonna acts the way she does.

And the only thing that sets her apart from the rest of them, is her drive and ambition.

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by Anonymousreply 64January 3, 2023 8:34 PM

Madge likely spent her childhood abusing Paula by clobbering over the head with roller-skates and batons, hence the mental slowness. Brain damage is a bitch, but little Madonna Louise Ciccone's legacy could not be claimed without a few casualties.

by Anonymousreply 1December 18, 2022 9:07 AM

The list of things you don't know vs what you know is probably 1000000000000000000000:1.

by Anonymousreply 2December 18, 2022 9:07 AM

I thought Madonna has several sisters.

by Anonymousreply 3December 18, 2022 9:08 AM

It's pretty fascinating, reading the comments at the bottom of the video.

I never realized a lot of this, but they're right.

[quote] “IF” you can read eyes...you will see that this beautiful woman is holding back sooooo much more than what she said in this interview...so much pain and restraint in these gorgeous eyes of hers.

[quote] This woman hasn't had an easy life being Madonna's sis, and yet she was being as honest and open as she could be - in public. That takes a lot of courage. I hope she's well.

[quote] I can feel her anxiety when she thinks about her sister, and I can relate. Not because my sister is famous, but because she was always the golden child and I was the black sheep; so we black sheep and scapegoats know what it's like to stand aside and watch the golden child get all the luck and all the praise.

[quote] Her honesty and vulnerability are absolutely refreshing...she really hit a spot that very VERY few people are able to hit. Wow.

[quote] Wow. Now I see why Beyoncé’s mother put her daughters in therapy when they were younger. We never realized how having a famous sibling can cause a divide in the household or put a strain on a sibling relationship. Her eyes are breath taking. 😍😍

[quote] So brave to admit the she is jealous. Not a lot of people could do that... 👌

[quote] Paula said something that was so true. The part where she said everyone wants their own level of success. Famous or not.

by Anonymousreply 4December 18, 2022 9:08 AM

I'm not sure she's actually Madonna's sister, according to Oprah, she is "Pauler Sickcone". Not sure who that is, but I do believe Madonna has a sister named Paula.

by Anonymousreply 6December 18, 2022 9:26 AM

M's sister was super striking. I could see her being a model.

I'm sure Madonna just loved that.

by Anonymousreply 7December 18, 2022 9:30 AM

she was a model and now looks like a less-bean.

by Anonymousreply 8December 18, 2022 9:35 AM

Omg, Madonna has three younger sisters!

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by Anonymousreply 9December 18, 2022 9:41 AM

R7 striking, yes—so I struck her over the head a few times with daddy's tire iron. Big deal. Don't judge me—someone had to put her in her place.

by Anonymousreply 10December 18, 2022 9:49 AM

Is Madonna a malignant narcissist?

by Anonymousreply 11December 18, 2022 9:52 AM

OMG look at the sisters now!

And Madonna is the oldest.

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by Anonymousreply 12December 18, 2022 9:55 AM

R11 I think there's a fair amount of evidence that she fits this hellscape of personality disorders:

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by Anonymousreply 13December 18, 2022 10:03 AM

“Sic-cone?” Did Oprah not bother to find out the correct pronounciation of her guest’s name?

by Anonymousreply 14December 18, 2022 10:04 AM

Madonna's dad is probably wondering who in the hell are all those kids surrounding him.

And should he call the police?

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by Anonymousreply 15December 18, 2022 10:42 AM

Madonna is no Mensa member herself, dear.

by Anonymousreply 16December 18, 2022 10:49 AM

Madonna herself has always been praised for her high intellect which has made her a very flat and measured person when speaking. It's like she's worried she's gonna say something stupid and then her whole gig will be up. I never bought it. Maybe Paula's the same way, just trying to come across as exceptional without really knowing how to do that. The whole family got screwed up when their mother died - Paula was a baby and as a result, was raised by their grandmother. She works for the family winery now in Northern Michigan.

by Anonymousreply 17December 18, 2022 12:22 PM

[quote] Madonna herself has always been praised for her high intellect

Sure, Jan.

We’ve seen her letters written in crayon full of misspellings and bad grammar. She still says “anyways”. She’s brain dead.

by Anonymousreply 18December 18, 2022 12:44 PM

Madonna doesn’t even know the definition of “reductive”.

by Anonymousreply 19December 18, 2022 12:45 PM

R18 I didn't say she is of high intellect, I said that she's always been praised for it. Go back and read some of the things written about her or said about her. Hell, even Howard Stern asked her about an IQ test that put her in the "genius" category. I agree with you, she's probably average at best and her success was merely a consequence of riding the early wave of MTV. She kept most of our attention for the first 10 years of her career and then basically begged for it after that

by Anonymousreply 20December 18, 2022 5:07 PM

Paula was the one who desired a career in showbiz, aspiring to be an actress and singer, while Madonna went to New York to be a dancer. When Madonna switched careers, became a success, and became engaged to Sean Penn, Paula supposedly had a meltdown on their wedding day, screaming that this was supposed to be HER life, not her sister's.

Madonna has said that Paula had many goals in life, but never stuck with one. Today, Paula runs Ciccone Vineyards, along with brother Mario.

by Anonymousreply 21December 18, 2022 5:14 PM

There was the gay brother, the alkie brother, Paula who is most likely a lesbian, Madonna the fame whore.

The older sister (Melanie?) married a country singer. She seems the most normal/balanced.

by Anonymousreply 22December 18, 2022 5:20 PM

I think Madonna is smart. It's really very difficult to get that famous and stay famous for so long with relatively little talent unless you're much more intelligent than average. See also: Lopez, Jennifer.

by Anonymousreply 23December 18, 2022 5:25 PM

R23- I always felt Madonna was clever but not talented.

by Anonymousreply 24December 18, 2022 5:34 PM

R22, Anthony and Martin are the alkies. Madonna paid for their rehab, but Anthony's recovery didn't stick and he became homeless. Christopher, the gay one, had a cocaine problem in the '90s-00s, so addiction seems to run in that family. Paula used to be roommates with actress Jorja Fox. Birds of a feather. Melanie, aka Mrs. Joe Henry, is the sibling Madonna is closest to. She used to be a publicist and talent manager at Opal Records. And then there are the two half-siblings. Madonna is the oldest sister.

by Anonymousreply 25December 18, 2022 5:56 PM

Is Christopher still "he who shall not be named" in Madonna's presence?

How sad.

They used to be so close.

by Anonymousreply 26December 18, 2022 10:08 PM

[quote] addiction seems to run in that family

Do you think that maybe Madonna's mother died of alcoholism, and not cancer, which is the story that the family tells?

by Anonymousreply 27December 18, 2022 10:09 PM

[quote] Go back and read some of the things written about her or said about her.

By sycophants.

[quote]Hell, even Howard Stern asked her about an IQ test that put her in the "genius" category.

He was referring to a claim about her IQ that was debunked by Mensa. Mensa doesn’t release that information. It’s fake and all celebs have IQ numbers listed online which are simply clickbait fabrications.

by Anonymousreply 28December 18, 2022 10:24 PM

[quote] I think Madonna is smart. It's really very difficult to get that famous and stay famous for so long with relatively little talent unless you're much more intelligent than average. See also: Lopez, Jennifer.

lol.

You can get far in Hollywood by acting like whores, dear.

by Anonymousreply 29December 18, 2022 10:25 PM

Madonna has always attempted to project the image that she is some sort of covert high-IQ genius, but the truth is that she is just a crafty and shrewd cunt who got by on shock value and marketing. Her "brand" doesn't translate well for someone who is, for all intents and purposes, geriatric, but she still doesn't seem to have gotten the memo.

by Anonymousreply 30December 18, 2022 10:35 PM

[quote] [R18] I didn't say she is of high intellect, I said that she's always been praised for it.

I don't think Madonna was ever known for having "high intellect." As stated, she didn't even know what "reductive" meant (word she used to describe Gaga).

The sister did seem kind of slow. She looks a lot like Madonna and wanted to be famous, too. It's understandable that there's jealousy.

by Anonymousreply 33December 19, 2022 1:39 AM

Interesting that the only sister she is close to eschews the spotlight, married well and is not dependent on Madonna.

by Anonymousreply 34December 19, 2022 1:48 AM

R27 No, back then breast cancer was often a death sentence.

by Anonymousreply 35December 19, 2022 2:09 AM

[quote] Is Christopher still "he who shall not be named" in Madonna's presence?

I think I read that they’ve made up.

by Anonymousreply 36December 19, 2022 2:10 AM

Brother Christopher is articulate and seems intelligent.

by Anonymousreply 37December 19, 2022 2:11 AM

Where is her brother Christopher now? what’s he up to?

by Anonymousreply 38December 19, 2022 2:34 AM

[quote]As stated, she didn't even know what "reductive" meant (word she used to describe Gaga).

She absolutely did know what "reductive" meant which is what she used to describe "Born this Way."

by Anonymousreply 39December 19, 2022 2:44 AM

Paula looks a bit like Ellen.

by Anonymousreply 41December 19, 2022 3:44 AM

Christopher wrote in his book that Paula was the sister Madonna was the meanest to and openly hostile and at times cruel to her for no reason.

by Anonymousreply 42December 19, 2022 3:55 AM

Madonna should give each of her siblings $1,000,000 or $2,000,000 each.

That's what I would do.

It's the least she could do for her brothers and sisters.

by Anonymousreply 44December 19, 2022 5:47 AM

Narcissists always claim they are geniuses. Sharon Stone also claims to be a genius and so do James Woods and Trump. Real geniuses are curious people. they have wide interests and all of them would be terribly bored sitting in their bathrooms taking pics of themselves. Carl Sagan is a genius. Compare him to someone like Madonna.

by Anonymousreply 45December 19, 2022 5:59 AM

Madonna and Paula are a year apart, so there must've been some fierce sibling rivalry there.

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by Anonymousreply 46December 19, 2022 6:09 AM

Plus they look the most alike, R46.

by Anonymousreply 47December 19, 2022 6:09 AM

Paula with Randy Jones of The Village People, Boy George, and Cornelia Guest.

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by Anonymousreply 48December 19, 2022 6:11 AM

Paula seems timid. It takes a bold aggressive personality as Madonna has to take risks. She could have worked at being an actress or model but probably didn't have the kind of ambition that Madonna has.

by Anonymousreply 49December 19, 2022 6:14 AM

She doesn’t seem slow to me at all.

She was dominating the conversation while the others just sat and stared.

Fashions and hairstyles of the audience were awful.

by Anonymousreply 50December 19, 2022 6:35 AM

She was dominating the conversation because Oprah was asking her questions and trying to get her to say stuff against Madonna.

by Anonymousreply 51December 19, 2022 7:24 AM

Who were the other women on the panel?

by Anonymousreply 52December 19, 2022 7:37 AM

They're a reminder of her history. Brothers and sisters, they hold the key to her heart and her soul. Don't forget that *your* family is gold.

by Anonymousreply 53December 19, 2022 7:51 AM

Wonder if Paula feels better about herself seeing what an absolute trainwreck Madonna has become.

by Anonymousreply 54December 19, 2022 7:57 AM

I'd like to know too R52.

Of course, it would make sense if Madonna's sister hogs all the Oprah time. Because that's certainly what Madonna would do.

by Anonymousreply 55December 19, 2022 8:25 AM

The girls in the family all seem to have their shit together.

The boys are all addicts.

by Anonymousreply 56December 19, 2022 7:16 PM

Are people here really under the impression Madonna doesn't help out her siblings at all? Who do you think funds that "family winery?"

Melanie has been married to the incredibly talented Joe Henry since the 80s. I'm sure he makes a very nice living on his own, but being a co-writer on several Madonna songs has to have helped along the way. I know Madonna used to make sure many of the b-sides of singles included a Henry composition since the songwriters of both songs on a record (back in the day) would get the same pay.

How much do you think she paid Christopher to be the designer of her live shows?

It's sort of reductive to say she hasn't helped them out.

by Anonymousreply 57December 19, 2022 7:30 PM

She seems shy and uncomfortable rather than stupid. Not everyone can relax on camera.

by Anonymousreply 58December 19, 2022 7:44 PM

Which is why she probably doesn't have the kind of make-up to be in show business. She probably could have been in show business in some way but I don't think she is ambitious or aggressive enough.

by Anonymousreply 60December 19, 2022 7:48 PM

R57 is full of it.

What would you define as 'several'?

" I'm sure he makes a very nice living on his own, but being a co-writer on several Madonna songs has to have helped along the way. I know Madonna used to make sure many of the b-sides of singles included a Henry composition"

Joe Henry's wiki states the princely sum of four tracks have a co-writing credit with his name attached.

Why do stans bullshit so badly? As if Madonna is some benevolent being, making sure everyone gets a bite of the cherry.

by Anonymousreply 61December 20, 2022 9:44 PM

I never bought Pauladonna’s music.

by Anonymousreply 62December 20, 2022 9:48 PM

I certainly wouldn't mind getting half of the publishing rights for four Madonna songs.

Would be a tidy little nest egg.

by Anonymousreply 63January 3, 2023 7:56 PM

Melanie could be perfectly cast as the wicked witch of the west, whacked out Madonna could be Glinda

by Anonymousreply 64January 3, 2023 8:34 PM

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